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#1 Tue, 2012-01-24 06:57
Margaret Grimes
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Hi, Steve. I believe you're the administrator / moderator for this list. Can you please exile the person posting the viagra links? There have been several such posts in the last week or so. Thank you. << > ><> > >

Tue, 2012-01-24 11:00
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Margaret,

I do some of the admin on this list - the person pushing these
messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses, which are now
restricted/blocked.

I think we do need Steve to look at this. (We need to make sure that
this blocking is really working.)

Chris

On 24 Jan 2012, at 14:57, Margaret Davis Grimes wrote:

> Hi, Steve. I believe you're the administrator / moderator for this
> list.
> Can you please exile the person posting the viagra links? There
> have been
> several such posts in the last week or so. Thank you.
>

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Tue, 2012-01-24 11:45 (Reply to #2)
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[quote=Christopher Trent]Margaret, I do some of the admin on this list - the person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses, which are now restricted/blocked.

I think we do need Steve to look at this. (We need to make sure that this blocking is really working.) [/quote]

As best as I can tell from looking at the system logs the spam that came through this morning came originally from an account created on the website rather than the mailing list. That account has been blocked from the website in addition to the blocking that Christopher did.

I'm moving this thread to the Community Feedback forum (which doesn't get forwarded to the list but which is available for any listmembers to read and reply to at http://outerspaceways.info/forums/community-feedback ) so that we can have some more in-depth conversation about spam and how to address it.

One thing troubling me is that unless Christopher deleted the web posting of this morning's viagra post, the spam filter for the website appears to have worked correctly to block the spam from posting on the forum, but did not stop it from coming through by email.

I'm also concerned because Margaret, you said that you've received several this week. Looking back through both the forum posts and the mails I see three, all in the last 36 hours. Have I missed some?

I have some ideas about how to best move forward, but they involve change, and I know no one likes change. Laughing In general, I'd like to take a step more in the direction of this being a Web-based forum with email features and away from being a mailing list with web features. We'd still keep the email posting address alive, of course, but we would lose the whole Mailman system. Digests would work differently, but probably would be more reliable.

I invite anyone with opinions about the future of the list to come to the Community Feedback forum and continue this discussion. I don't want to make unilateral changes and I am committed to keeping this great list alive. I know that I've neglected things somewhat over the last year and I apologize for that but you also have to understand that my priority projects involve paying my rent and keeping my paying clients happy. This is a labor of love and that means that my attention is sporadic.

Thanks,

 

Steve

Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #3)
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Steve,

On 24 Jan 2012, at 19:45, admin@outerspaceways.info wrote:

> One thing troubling me is that unless Christopher deleted the web
> posting of
> this morning's viagra post, the spam filter for the website appears
> to have
> worked correctly to block the spam from posting on the forum, but
> did not
> stop it from coming through by email.

No, I did not delete any postings, I just tried to require moderation
for any new postings from those account for future posts.

Best regards,

Chris

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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #4)
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This is knoel scott  
 i have not lived in Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy france . Im going back there on Sat\
I am very frustrated that my name was used to peddle this trash and at  am very proud I have never needed or subscribed  for such medication 
 I In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have no explainaition about why my name was used on the re of those stupid ads 
 welcome any investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will not be blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list is a priority at this time.
Sincerely
Knoel scott





From: "admin@outerspaceways.info" <admin@outerspaceways.info>
To: saturn@outerspaceways.info
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ Saturn ] person pushing viagra and

[quote=Christopher Trent]Margaret, I do some of the admin on this list - the
person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses,
which are now restricted/blocked.

I think we do need Steve to look at
this. (We need to make sure that this
blocking is really working.) [/quote]

As best as I can tell from looking at the system logs the spam that came
through this morning came originally from an account created on the website
rather than the mailing list. That account has been blocked from the website
in addition to the blocking that Christopher did.

I'm moving this thread to the Community Feedback forum (which doesn't get
forwarded to the list but which is available for any listmembers to read and
reply to at http://outerspaceways.info/forums/community-feedback ) so that we
can have some more in-depth conversation about spam and how to address it.

One thing troubling me is that unless Christopher deleted the web posting of
this morning's viagra post, the spam filter for the website appears to have
worked correctly to block the spam from posting on the forum, but did not
stop it from coming through by
email.

I'm also concerned because Margaret, you said that you've received several
this week. Looking back through both the forum posts and the mails I see
three, all in the last 36 hours. Have I missed some?

I have some ideas about how to best move forward, but they involve change,
and I know no one likes change. In general, I'd like to take a step more in
the direction of this being a Web-based forum with email features and away
from being a mailing list with web features. We'd still keep the email
posting address alive, of course, but we would lose the whole Mailman system.
Digests would work differently, but probably would be more reliable.

I invite anyone with opinions about the future of the list to come to the
Community Feedback forum and continue this discussion. I don't want to make
unilateral changes and I am committed to keeping this great list alive. I
know that I've neglected things somewhat
over the last year and I apologize
for that but you also have to understand that my priority projects involve
paying my rent and keeping my paying clients happy. This is a labor of love
and that means that my attention is sporadic.

Thanks,

 

Steve


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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #5)
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It's likely that your computer (or some computer that you've used) has
been infected with a virus or some other malware. The virus (or
whatever) captured your account credentials and then did its thing.
This is actually pretty common, but I don't recall seeing it on the
Saturn list until now.

Did you use a public terminal, such as a computer in a library or
school, by any chance? This happened to my wife and it took over her
Yahoo email.

Joe

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Knoel Scott wrote:
> This is knoel scott
>  i have not lived in Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy
> france . Im going back there on Sat\
> I am very frustrated that my name was used to peddle this trash and at  am
> very proud I have never needed or subscribed  for such medication
>  I In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have no explainaition
> about why my name was used on the re of those stupid ads
>  welcome any investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will
> not be blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list
> is a priority at this time.
> Sincerely
> Knoel scott
>
> From: "admin@outerspaceways.info"
> To: saturn@outerspaceways.info
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ Saturn ] person pushing viagra and
>
> [quote=Christopher Trent]Margaret, I do some of the admin on this list - the
> person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses,
> which are now restricted/blocked.
>
> I think we do need Steve to look at this. (We need to make sure that this
> blocking is really working.) [/quote]
>
> As best as I can tell from looking at the system logs the spam that came
> through this morning came originally from an account created on the website
> rather than the mailing list. That account has been blocked from the website
> in addition to the blocking that Christopher did.
>
> I'm moving this thread to the Community Feedback forum (which doesn't get
> forwarded to the list but which is available for any listmembers to read and
> reply to at http://outerspaceways.info/forums/community-feedback ) so that
> we
> can have some more in-depth conversation about spam and how to address it.
>
> One thing troubling me is that unless Christopher deleted the web posting of
> this morning's viagra post, the spam filter for the website appears to have
> worked correctly to block the spam from posting on the forum, but did not
> stop it from coming through by email.
>
> I'm also concerned because Margaret, you said that you've received several
> this week. Looking back through both the forum posts and the mails I see
> three, all in the last 36 hours. Have I missed some?
>
> I have some ideas about how to best move forward, but they involve change,
> and I know no one likes change. In general, I'd like to take a step more in
> the direction of this being a Web-based forum with email features and away
> from being a mailing list with web features. We'd still keep the email
> posting address alive, of course, but we would lose the whole Mailman
> system.
> Digests would work differently, but probably would be more reliable.
>
> I invite anyone with opinions about the future of the list to come to the
> Community Feedback forum and continue this discussion. I don't want to make
> unilateral changes and I am committed to keeping this great list alive. I
> know that I've neglected things somewhat over the last year and I apologize
> for that but you also have to understand that my priority projects involve
> paying my rent and keeping my paying clients happy. This is a labor of love
> and that means that my attention is sporadic.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
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Tue, 2012-01-24 16:00 (Reply to #6)
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Knoel—

The spam message that I saw had your name in the subject. It did not come from you. If there is another one that I missed please let me know, but from what I can see there is no reason to confuse that spam with any communication from you.

It does not look like your system has been hijacked or hit by a virus or anything. There is no reason at all to block you from the list or the website. The thought never crossed my mind and I only mention it because you mentioned it as a concern.

My best guess is that the person created an account on the site, looked at old posts, and got your name from an old post.

The site has pretty darn good spam protection, but nothing is perfect. Though a few spam messages did get through recently, the system rejects or throws away something like 20 messages every day from spammers. When a spammer isn't a script/bot but instead a real human being, it gets very difficult to tell before he does his damage.

I'm looking at options for improving it and welcome suggestions along those lines.


Steve

See my blog at http://splicer.com/

Wed, 2012-01-25 02:40 (Reply to #7)
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Knoel,

does this mean you lived in Alaska for awhile? Isn't it a very cold and abroad place for a jazz musician?

best wishes
Andreas


Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:32:21 -0800
From: knoelscott@yahoo.com
To: saturn@outerspaceways.info; saturn@lists.outerspaceways.info
Subject: Re: [ Saturn ] person pushing viagra and


This is knoel scott  
 i have not lived in Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy france . Im going back there on Sat\
I am very frustrated that my name was used to peddle this trash and at  am very proud I have never needed or subscribed  for such medication 
 I In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have no explainaition about why my name was used on the re of those stupid ads 
 welcome any investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will not be blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list is a priority at this time.
Sincerely
Knoel scott



Thu, 2012-01-26 02:05 (Reply to #8)
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So busy the list, for such a ridiculous case !  I know RA; who is Viag ?

SATURNALLY

michael


From: andreasdietz@hotmail.com
To: saturn@outerspaceways.info
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:06:37 +0100
Subject: [ Saturn ] Alaska


Knoel,

does this mean you lived in Alaska for awhile? Isn't it a very cold and abroad place for a jazz musician?

best wishes
Andreas


Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:32:21 -0800
From: knoelscott@yahoo.com
To: saturn@outerspaceways.info; saturn@lists.outerspaceways.info
Subject: Re: [ Saturn ] person pushing viagra and


This is knoel scott  
 i have not lived in Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy france . Im going back there on Sat\
I am very frustrated that my name was used to peddle this trash and at  am very proud I have never needed or subscribed  for such medication 
 I In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have no explainaition about why my name was used on the re of those stupid ads 
 welcome any investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will not be blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list is a priority at this time.
Sincerely
Knoel scott



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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #9)
Knoel Scott
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This is knoel scott  
 i have not lived in Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy france . Im going back there on Sat\
I am very frustrated that my name was used to peddle this trash and at  am very proud I have never needed or subscribed  for such medication 
 I In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have no explainaition about why my name was used on the re of those stupid ads 
 welcome any investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will not be blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list is a priority at this time.
Sincerely
Knoel scott





From: "admin@outerspaceways.info" <admin@outerspaceways.info>
To: saturn@outerspaceways.info
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ Saturn ] person pushing viagra and

[quote=Christopher Trent]Margaret, I do some of the admin on this list - the
person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses,
which are now restricted/blocked.

I think we do need Steve to look at
this. (We need to make sure that this
blocking is really working.) [/quote]

As best as I can tell from looking at the system logs the spam that came
through this morning came originally from an account created on the website
rather than the mailing list. That account has been blocked from the website
in addition to the blocking that Christopher did.

I'm moving this thread to the Community Feedback forum (which doesn't get
forwarded to the list but which is available for any listmembers to read and
reply to at http://outerspaceways.info/forums/community-feedback ) so that we
can have some more in-depth conversation about spam and how to address it.

One thing troubling me is that unless Christopher deleted the web posting of
this morning's viagra post, the spam filter for the website appears to have
worked correctly to block the spam from posting on the forum, but did not
stop it from coming through by
email.

I'm also concerned because Margaret, you said that you've received several
this week. Looking back through both the forum posts and the mails I see
three, all in the last 36 hours. Have I missed some?

I have some ideas about how to best move forward, but they involve change,
and I know no one likes change. In general, I'd like to take a step more in
the direction of this being a Web-based forum with email features and away
from being a mailing list with web features. We'd still keep the email
posting address alive, of course, but we would lose the whole Mailman system.
Digests would work differently, but probably would be more reliable.

I invite anyone with opinions about the future of the list to come to the
Community Feedback forum and continue this discussion. I don't want to make
unilateral changes and I am committed to keeping this great list alive. I
know that I've neglected things somewhat
over the last year and I apologize
for that but you also have to understand that my priority projects involve
paying my rent and keeping my paying clients happy. This is a labor of love
and that means that my attention is sporadic.

Thanks,

 

Steve


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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #10)
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I think "homeland security" should investigate these nefarious activities

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Christopher Trent wrote:

> Margaret,
>
> I do some of the admin on this list - the person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses, which are now restricted/blocked.
>
> I think we do need Steve to look at this. (We need to make sure that this blocking is really working.)
>
> Chris
>
> On 24 Jan 2012, at 14:57, Margaret Davis Grimes wrote:
>
>> Hi, Steve. I believe you're the administrator / moderator for this list.
>> Can you please exile the person posting the viagra links? There have been
>> several such posts in the last week or so. Thank you.
>>
>
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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40 (Reply to #11)
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Ok

"Space Is The Place"

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:08 PM, lennibukowski@aol.com wrote:

> I think "homeland security" should investigate these nefarious activities
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Christopher Trent wrote:
>
>> Margaret,
>>
>> I do some of the admin on this list - the person pushing these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses, which are now restricted/blocked.
>>
>> I think we do need Steve to look at this. (We need to make sure that this blocking is really working.)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 24 Jan 2012, at 14:57, Margaret Davis Grimes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Steve. I believe you're the administrator / moderator for this list.
>>> Can you please exile the person posting the viagra links? There have been
>>> several such posts in the last week or so. Thank you.
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Saturn mailing list
>> Saturn@lists.outerspaceways.info
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Tue, 2012-01-24 15:40
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Hey, Knoel,
apparently the drug peddler hooked his / her sales pitches onto earlier existing
Emails on the listserv and used them to reply to.  (S)he did the same thing
with a couple of other Emails also on the listserv.  According to Chris
Trent, "the person pushing
these messages out had subscribed at least 6 email addresses, which are now
restricted/blocked." 
Nobody is blaming you for this in
any way, and there is no reason why you would be blocked unless any of those
Email addresses was yours.

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On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Knoel
Scott wrote:



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This is knoel
scott  

 i have not lived in
Alaska since 2006 and in fact currently reside in nancy france . Im going
back there on Sat\

I am very frustrated that my
name was used to peddle this trash and at  am very proud I have never
needed or subscribed  for such medication 

 I id=yui-ie-cursor>In any rate I hope that I am still on the list and have
no explainaition about why my name was used on the re of those stupid
ads 

 welcome any
investigation which will uproot this annoyance.  I hope i will not be
blocked from this list but understand that the security of the list is a
priority at this time.

Sincerely

Knoel scott

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