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#1 Sat, 2011-05-14 19:38
3equals0-3equals1
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Live at Red Creek 1986

Hello all,

Is anyone familiar with the recent LP release 'Live at Red Creek 1986?'  I bought a copy and it is reported to have been recorded on August 11, 1986 in Rochester, NY. 
I checked Campbell/Trent 2nd edition and entry 505. [349] gives the setlist. 


I'm wondering if the date given on the LP is incorrect or the music was extensively edited as I cannot match what I'm hearing with the setlist.  The LP is not divided into songs, only sides and some tunes are easily recognizable (D27II, Children of the Sun) but most of the album seems to be either long improvs or perhaps unreleased (and unknown) titles.


Has anyone heard the 94 minute recording and compared it with the 44 minute  LP?  I'd love to hear some thoughts...

Thanks,

-john

Sun, 2011-05-15 05:35
Peter Van Laarhoven
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Live at Red Creek 1986






Hi John,

 

It does sound as if quite some editing has being
made. This is what my friend Danny makes of it:

 


Side 1 :
22'05

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 1)A lost
horizon   14'35

  
(S.Ra)

 2)a.
Discipline 27 II   7'30

   b.
You've lost your way

   c.
Saturn rings

   d.
Journey to Saturn

   
  (S.Ra)

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Side 2 :
21'50

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 3)Untitled 1
  10'20

  
(S.Ra)

 4)Untitled 2
  11'30

  
(S.Ra)

 

Hope this helps,

 

-- peter van laarhoven

 

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----- Original Message -----

style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">From:
John Sudduth

To: href="mailto:saturn@outerspaceways.info">saturn@outerspaceways.info

Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:37 AM

Subject: [ Saturn ] Live at Red Creek
1986


Hello all,

Is anyone familiar with the recent LP release
'Live at Red Creek 1986?'  I bought a copy and it is reported to have
been recorded on August 11, 1986 in Rochester, NY. 
I checked
Campbell/Trent 2nd edition and entry 505. [349] gives the setlist. 


I'm wondering if the date given on the LP is incorrect or the music
was extensively edited as I cannot match what I'm hearing with the
setlist.  The LP is not divided into songs, only sides and some tunes are
easily recognizable (D27II, Children of the Sun) but most of the album seems
to be either long improvs or perhaps unreleased (and unknown)
titles.

Has anyone heard the 94 minute recording and compared it with
the 44 minute  LP?  I'd love to hear some
thoughts...

Thanks,

-john



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Live at Red Creek 1986

Untitled one is an amazing Billy Bang workout. Worth the price of admission for that alone.

Nick


On 15 May 2011 14:33, Peter Van Laarhoven <p.vanlaarhoven@scarlet.be> wrote:
Hi John,
 
It does sound as if quite some editing has being
made. This is what my friend Danny makes of it:
 
Side 1 :
22'05

 1)A lost
horizon   14'35
  
(S.Ra)
 2)a.
Discipline 27 II   7'30
   b.
You've lost your way
   c.
Saturn rings
   d.
Journey to Saturn
   
  (S.Ra)

Side 2 :
21'50

 3)Untitled 1
  10'20
  
(S.Ra)
 4)Untitled 2
  11'30
  
(S.Ra)
 
Hope this helps,
 
-- peter van laarhoven
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: [ Saturn ] Live at Red Creek
1986

Hello all,

Is anyone familiar with the recent LP release
'Live at Red Creek 1986?'  I bought a copy and it is reported to have
been recorded on August 11, 1986 in Rochester, NY. 
I checked
Campbell/Trent 2nd edition and entry 505. [349] gives the setlist. 


I'm wondering if the date given on the LP is incorrect or the music
was extensively edited as I cannot match what I'm hearing with the
setlist.  The LP is not divided into songs, only sides and some tunes are
easily recognizable (D27II, Children of the Sun) but most of the album seems
to be either long improvs or perhaps unreleased (and unknown)
titles.

Has anyone heard the 94 minute recording and compared it with
the 44 minute  LP?  I'd love to hear some
thoughts...

Thanks,

-john


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