Re: SR museum?hipness
Re: SR museum?hipness
I simply don't accept Mr. Scott's condemnations and guilt trips. Even = if the shoe fits, I choose to go barefoot.
If admonishments from on high are what list members seek, include me = out. I will seek inspiration elsewhere.
How do I unsubscribe?
-----Original Message----- From: Sun Ra and his Arkestra [mailto:SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL]On Behalf Of Len(Ni) Bukowski Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 6:08 AM To: SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL Subject: Re: SR museum?hipness
Methinks a history lesson is needed. Knoel Scott is a member of the Arkestra. Knoel Scott has been a member of the Arkestra for many years. Knoel Scott has studied with Sun Ra. Knoel Scott knows of the Ancient Wisdom. Knoel Scott is in the "inner circle." Thus, Knoel Scott IS hipper than thou, Jack, dig?!
-----Original Message----- From: Townsend squeezbx@olypen.com To: SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL Sent: Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:01 pm Subject: Re: SR museum?
"you people" "sucking the life blood" "you wouldn't understand anyway" Sorry, guess I'm not enough of an ass kisser to agree with this ipper-than-thou crap. -----Original Message----- rom: Sun Ra and his Arkestra [mailto:SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL]On Behalf Of noel Scott ent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:29 AM o: SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL ubject: Re: SR museum?
s there a museum of the Christ? un Ras legacy resounds in the creativity of the Arkestra, AACM, World axophone Qt; n answ<er to your question? Yes Sunny would delight in his legacy being cattered to the four winds ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;winds such as the Orchestra in he Republic of Tuva (siberia) which basded its concept on the Sun Ra rkestra, to that crazy japanesese Big band, to the poetry of Imamu = Amiri araka ts time you people dug in your souls and spririts and created some = beauty nstead o=C3=A7f just sucking the life blood out of the Creative Artsts = then hewing on their bones in Museums; REATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE CREATE that is the greatest legacy Sun Ra could have.........The rest, you = wouldnt et i;e; understand anyway This is the viewpoint of Knoel Scott, prodigal son of Sun Ra
rom: Margaret Davis Grimes musicmargaret@earthlink.net o: SATURN@NIC.SURFNET.NL ent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:12:53 PM ubject: Re: SR museum? Hi, Doctor. I assume Maestro Marshall Allen would choose the project anager and the place, and I don't know where the necessary funding would ome from, though I shouldn't think it would cost much if the collection ould be housed in an already established place. But this idea did not riginate with me, it was discussed on this list several years ago, and I hought the Sun Ra Museum was already being developed at that time. I'll ee what I can find out about it. << >> < <>> <> > On Friday, March 26, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dr. Anton J. Kuchelmeister wrote:
ppreciating the opinions and arguments by the several contributors, so = far. till missing many others? However, not to concentrate right now, or only, on the question of a otential most suitable location, I think what much more important is are he other aspects raised, may I repeat them:
Such a project will need a visionary, energetic, empowered and = empowering roject manager to run the project through planning, implementation and peration. Where would the necessary funding come from? This would impact strongly further steps... << >> << > >< >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:05:06 +0100, Margaret Davis Grimes wrote: When will Sun Ra ever get his Museum? There are scores and collections = and rchives at the Library of Congress, at Berklee, in Alabama and hiladelphia, in Europe and Japan, here, there, and yonder... When will = the un Ra Museum come true? Or would he have liked the idea of having his egacy scattered to the four winds? What do you all think or know about his? << >> << > >< > > http://tinyurl.com/yfn4hdz "Chicago Jazz Music Examiner" The Chicago link between Sun Ra and the Governor of Massachusetts By Neil Tesser (ressetn@aol.com) March 24, 2010 Sun Ra: What's his link to the Massachusetts Governor? Later today, = the overnor of Massachusetts will officially present a collection of emorabilia - hundreds of musical scores, photos, recordings, and other tems - to the Berklee College of Music's Africana Studies Archive. = They're aking a full day of it, too, with performances by students and faculty = at erklee (the leading jazz school in America), along with speeches by the overnor, school officials, and the celebrated poet and activist Amiri araka. What follows is a simple little tale of how that collection of = memorabilia ade its way to Boston via New York, Chicago -- and the planet Saturn. It starts, however, in East Moline, 150 miles east west of Chicago - the irthplace of Laurdine Kenneth Patrick in 1929. Along the way to = becoming a azz saxophonist, Laurdine (quite understandably) acquired the more anageable nickname "Pat." And that's the name you find on all of the = early ecordings by the cosmo-musical explorer Sun Ra. In fact, as award-winning author John Szwed points out in his much = admired iography of Sun Ra, Patrick played an extremely important role in the areer of the young bandleader, back when Ra was the Chicago pianist = still nown as Herman "Sonny" Blount. This was before he created his personal hilosophy, a mystic hodgepodge hybridized from science fiction and = Egyptian ythology, which became one of Sun Ra's trademarks -- along with the isionary, rollicking music that accompanied it. Patrick, who specialized in baritone sax but also excelled at alto (and ccasionally played electric bass), had moved to Chicago primarily to = study t DuSable High School with the legendary bandleader Walter Dyett. Even hen, Dyett enjoyed a reputation for developing disciplined and motivated usicians. And Patrick stands out among the most impressive DuSable = alumni, ho have included saxophone great Von Freeman, bass icon Wilbur Ware, and he peerless vocalist Dinah Washington). In 1952, Patrick joined Blount / Ra in a new trio on Chicago's south = side; t would eventually blossom into one of the most unusual and influential rchestras in jazz, the Sun Ra Arkestra (as it was most often called). = The and was known as much for their metallic capes and headgear -- trust me, ene Simmons had nothing on these guys -- as for their innovative, ther-worldly music. Over the decades, Patrick would come and go, a estament to the high regard in which Sun Ra held him: other key members = of he Arkestra lived communally under the watchful eye of the leader (in = part o that "Sunny" could ensure their abstinence from vices of all kinds). In 1963, the versatile Patrick hired on as musical director of Mongo antamaria's Latin-jazz group - the one that had the giant hit = "Watermelon an." Everyone knows that tune. Not so many recall another Santamaria = hit alled "Yeh! Yeh!" Patrick wrote that one; eventually it gained lyrics = and limbed the pop charts, thanks to British rock-&-roller Georgie Fame's = hit ecording of 1965. Patrick also recorded with John Coltrane and performed in Duke = Ellington's and. He worked with Thelonious Monk and Clark Terry and co-founded a = group alled Baritone Retinue. All along the way, he was collecting musical xperiences - and memorabilia. And he often returned to Sun Ra, as he = did or the 1970 performance in Berlin documented below.=20 By then, his son Deval Patrick - born in 1956, but estranged from his = father or years - had turned 14. Having moved with his mother to = Massachusetts, e graduated from the prestigious Milton Academy in 1974. Then he went = to arvard. Then Harvard Law, in 1979. Fifteen years later, he was named ssistant Attorney General for Civil Rights under President Clinton. And = in 006, Deval Patrick became the first African-American Governor of the ommonwealth of Massachusetts. It is in that capacity that he dedicates to Berklee the collection of = his ather's memorabilia and writings. He also does this in the capacity of = a espectful son: Pat Patrick died in 1991, but not before he and Deval = could econcile. Although the father did not approve of his son's entry into ainstream politics, they nonetheless found common ground in the music. On Tuesday, the Governor told the Boston Herald: "What's satisfying is aving his material appreciated. Frankly, even for my sisters and me, we eren't quite sure what we were sitting on . . . It seemed to have value ecause my father had paid attention to accumulating and preserving it uring his life. So it's great to have the folks at Berklee, who seem so xcited about this material, take custody of it and share it with = students." Today, the son of a man who played with the Sun of Saturn honors his = father ith a trove of history - and at least a bit of stardust, emanating from = his hicago roots.
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