Fwd: Urban musical archeology (momentarily off Sun Ra topic)

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#1 Wed, 2012-09-26 19:55
Robert L Campbell
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Fwd: Urban musical archeology (momentarily off Sun Ra topic)

From: Robert L Campbell <campber@smtp.clemson.edu>

Subject: Re: Urban musical archeology (momentarily off Sun Ra topic)
Date: September 26, 2012 7:52:55 PM EDT
To: "Margaret Davis Grimes" <musicmargaret@earthlink.net>
Cc: Robert L Campbell <campber@smtp.clemson.edu>


Margaret,

What happened is that blues/soul singer Harold Burrage was originally on the bill (along with Rudy Crier, the show producer, he is prominently billed in Chicago Defender advertisements for the gig).

At some point before the show closed (in early December 1955), it looks as though Harold Burrage left and was replaced by another performer named Dorrres something.  The sticker has completely peeled off the right half of the sign, so we don't know the last name.

With some time to look back through Chicago Defenders from late 1955, I may be able to identify Dorres.  Almost certainly not connected with Harold Burrage, though.

Is Ronnie Burrage related to Harold?

Robert Campbell

On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:41 PM, "Margaret Davis Grimes" <musicmargaret@earthlink.net> wrote:



About the "old signboard in the attic or the basement advertising Sunny's gig at the Grand Terrace," does anyone know anything about the other person advertised on the signboard, Dorres [?] Burrage?  Drummer Ronnie Burrage is interested.  I forwarded him a copy of the signboard photo, and he replied, "Thank you, I will have to look into this.  My family in Chicago played, but I only knew about the Sanders side.  My grandmother's brother, father, uncles?"   About Ronnie, he has played music with Richard Davis, John Hicks, Andrew Hill, Jackie McLean, David Murray, Jaco Pastorius, Sonny Rollins, Woody Shaw, McCoy Tyner, Reggie Workman, et al.  Ronnie teaches at Penn State and can be reached atrodrummusic@gmail.com.
 
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Robert L. Campbell at campber@clemson.edu wrote:
 
... The owner, David Meyers, recently found an old signboard in the attic or the basement, advertising Sunny's gig at the Grand Terrace.
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/grandterracesunraboarddb.jpg

 



Robert L Campbell
Professor, Psychology
Editor, New Ideas in Psychology
Webmaster, Red Saunders Research Foundation
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Clemson University
Clemson SC 29634-1355 USA
campber@clemson.edu




Robert L Campbell
Professor, Psychology
Editor, New Ideas in Psychology
Webmaster, Red Saunders Research Foundation
Brackett 410A
Clemson University
Clemson SC 29634-1355 USA
campber@clemson.edu


Thu, 2012-09-27 23:46
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Urban musical archeology (momentarily off Sun Ra topic)

> At some point before the show closed (in early December
> 1955), it looks as though Harold Burrage left and was
> replaced by another performer named Dorrres something.
> The sticker has completely peeled off the right half of the
> sign, so we don't know the last name.

it was not a sticker - it is a piece of painted wood that was nailed
over harold burrage's name on the board. the 'dorres' part, on the
left, remains nailed on. the right part, which had covered 'burrage',
is missing. you can see it in detail here
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/grandterracesunraboarddb.jpg

I-) ihor
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Thu, 2012-09-27 23:46 (Reply to #2)
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Urban musical archeology (momentarily off Sun Ra topic)

Ihor,

Thanks for the pickup on this.

Robert

On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:54 PM, ihor sunrise wrote:



At some point before the show closed (in early December

1955), it looks as though Harold Burrage left and was

replaced by another performer named Dorrres something.

The sticker has completely peeled off the right half of the

sign, so we don't know the last name.


it was not a sticker - it is a piece of painted wood that was nailed
over harold burrage's name on the board.  the 'dorres' part, on the
left, remains nailed on.  the right part, which had covered 'burrage',
is missing.  you can see it in detail here
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/grandterracesunraboarddb.jpg

I-)  ihor
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Sat, 2012-09-29 23:56
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>> At some point before the show closed (in early December
>> 1955), it looks as though Harold Burrage left and was
>> replaced by another performer named Dorrres something.
>> The sticker has completely peeled off the right half of the
>> sign, so we don't know the last name.
>
> it was not a sticker - it is a piece of painted wood that was nailed
> over harold burrage's name on the board. the 'dorres' part, on the
> left, remains nailed on. the right part, which had covered 'burrage',
> is missing. you can see it in detail here
> http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/grandterracesunraboarddb.jpg

i wonder if the 'dorres' that is on that piece of painted wood is
'jimmy and delories' that appears here:
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/sunny100155p28.jpg much of the
info in that ad seems to match what is on the painted board that is in
the former club location.

I-) ihor
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Sat, 2012-09-29 23:56 (Reply to #4)
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Ihor,

It might be a reference to Jimmy and "Delories." I need to check who was working at other clubs around this time.

Robert Campbell

On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:19 AM, ihor sunrise wrote:

>>> At some point before the show closed (in early December
>>> 1955), it looks as though Harold Burrage left and was
>>> replaced by another performer named Dorrres something.
>>> The sticker has completely peeled off the right half of the
>>> sign, so we don't know the last name.
>>
>> it was not a sticker - it is a piece of painted wood that was nailed
>> over harold burrage's name on the board. the 'dorres' part, on the
>> left, remains nailed on. the right part, which had covered 'burrage',
>> is missing. you can see it in detail here
>> http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/grandterracesunraboarddb.jpg
>
> i wonder if the 'dorres' that is on that piece of painted wood is
> 'jimmy and delories' that appears here:
> http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/sunny100155p28.jpg much of the
> info in that ad seems to match what is on the painted board that is in
> the former club location.
>
> I-) ihor
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