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#1 Thu, 2012-03-08 16:29

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Recently purchased a sony USB port turntable as I wanted to digitize my Sun Ra LP "Of Mythic Worlds". The problem I have not been able to resolve is it is only recording one track. I am using Audacity for the transfer, it shows 2 tracks but they are identical. You can hear Ra real well, but the saxes sound like they're in another room which tells me I'm only getting one of the stereo tracks. Does anyone have an idea as to what I need to do to fix the problem? The USB cable I am using is not the one that came with the turntable... could that be the problem?

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#2 Sat, 2012-03-10 18:21

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Hey Lee

Sounds like you are not using a stereo cable. I am not familiar with
USB audio but suggest you use the cable that came with the turntable,
in theory it should give you a stereo signal. May also be an issue
with the audio inputs on the computer. When I digitized my records I
ran them through a M-Audio stereo soundcard to do the digital
conversion and recorded them to BIAS Peak. Of Mythic Worlds has
always been a favorite... good luck.

>Recently purchased a sony USB port turntable as I wanted to digitize
>my Sun Ra LP "Of Mythic Worlds". The problem I have not been able to
>resolve is it is only recording one track. I am using Audacity for
>the transfer, it shows 2 tracks but they are identical. You can hear
>Ra real well, but the saxes sound like they're in another room which
>tells me I'm only getting one of the stereo tracks. Does anyone have
>an idea as to what I need to do to fix the problem? The USB cable I
>am using is not the one that came with the turntable... could that
>be the problem?
>
>http://lee-santa.artistwebsites.com
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#3 Sat, 2012-03-10 18:21

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it does not seem right, you should get stereo -- I don't know the particular device you've bought, but the usb cable is a digital thing, so there's no left-right to it as there was with analog equipment; the analog-to-digital conversion is happening in the turntable itself, and then the stereo signal handed to your computer via the USB

I have a vintage turntable that I put through a device made by m-audio, and it has a mono-stereo button on the box, but I expect you have already checked everything visible, so it is my guess it is your computer sound system itself that is taking only one half of the signal and giving that to Audacity.

I also use Audacity, but I use it under Linux so my setup may not be like yours, but in mine I have a seperate sound-system mixer control where I select the input device, and in this case I would select m-audio and specify stereo as two input channels;the mixer lets me test them. In addition, under linux we have a layer of software that ensures against dropouts (called 'jackd') that also has inputs and outputs and is used to buffer the sound for applications, so jackd has two inputs and a 'connections' box where I can map these two inputs to the running applications (in this case L & R input on Audacity)

could your problem be something like that?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Stephen Ramirez <stephenramirez@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hey Lee

Sounds like you are not using a stereo cable. I am not familiar with USB audio but suggest you use the cable that came with the turntable, in theory it should give you a stereo signal. May also be an issue with the audio inputs on the computer. When I digitized my records I ran them through a M-Audio stereo soundcard to do the digital conversion and recorded them to BIAS Peak. Of Mythic Worlds has always been a favorite... good luck.

SR

Recently purchased a sony USB port turntable as I wanted to digitize my Sun Ra LP "Of Mythic Worlds". The problem I have not been able to resolve is it is only recording one track. I am using Audacity for the transfer, it shows 2 tracks but they are identical. You can hear Ra real well, but the saxes sound like they're in another room which tells me I'm only getting one of the stereo tracks. Does anyone have an idea as to what I need to do to fix the problem? The USB cable I am using is not the one that came with the turntable... could that be the problem?

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#4 Sat, 2012-03-10 18:22 (Reply to #3)

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I went through a similar issue with my USB turntable when I first used it with a Windows laptop (after my Mac PowerBook G4 died) a few years ago. Within Windows settings - I forget exactly where because I'm not on my laptop right now - but the default for sound recording is mono, you should change it to CD-quality stereo after you've plugged your USB cable in but before you boot up Audacity.

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On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@teledyn.com> wrote:

it does not seem right, you should get stereo -- I don't know the particular device you've bought, but the usb cable is a digital thing, so there's no left-right to it as there was with analog equipment; the analog-to-digital conversion is happening in the turntable itself, and then the stereo signal handed to your computer via the USB

I have a vintage turntable that I put through a device made by m-audio, and it has a mono-stereo button on the box, but I expect you have already checked everything visible, so it is my guess it is your computer sound system itself that is taking only one half of the signal and giving that to Audacity.

I also use Audacity, but I use it under Linux so my setup may not be like yours, but in mine I have a seperate sound-system mixer control where I select the input device, and in this case I would select m-audio and specify stereo as two input channels;the mixer lets me test them. In addition, under linux we have a layer of software that ensures against dropouts (called 'jackd') that also has inputs and outputs and is used to buffer the sound for applications, so jackd has two inputs and a 'connections' box where I can map these two inputs to the running applications (in this case L & R input on Audacity)

could your problem be something like that?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Stephen Ramirez <stephenramirez@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hey Lee

Sounds like you are not using a stereo cable. I am not familiar with USB audio but suggest you use the cable that came with the turntable, in theory it should give you a stereo signal. May also be an issue with the audio inputs on the computer. When I digitized my records I ran them through a M-Audio stereo soundcard to do the digital conversion and recorded them to BIAS Peak. Of Mythic Worlds has always been a favorite... good luck.

SR

Recently purchased a sony USB port turntable as I wanted to digitize my Sun Ra LP "Of Mythic Worlds". The problem I have not been able to resolve is it is only recording one track. I am using Audacity for the transfer, it shows 2 tracks but they are identical. You can hear Ra real well, but the saxes sound like they're in another room which tells me I'm only getting one of the stereo tracks. Does anyone have an idea as to what I need to do to fix the problem? The USB cable I am using is not the one that came with the turntable... could that be the problem?

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#5 Sat, 2012-03-10 18:22

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Is this your first attempt at using Audacity? If you've tried other media as input to Audacity without trouble, then maybe the problem's in the t-table.

Try giving the LP a listen without first going through Audacity. If the LP sounds fine without first running it through Audacity, then I'd say there's a setting in the program than should be changed. If the problem persists, then check your phono cartridge - could it be miswired or not fully engaged with the tone arm?

Good luck! Troubleshooting can be very frustrating.

-john

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM, lee santa <lfsanta@yahoo.com> wrote:

Recently purchased a sony USB port turntable as I wanted to digitize my Sun Ra LP "Of Mythic Worlds". The problem I have not been able to resolve is it is only recording one track. I am using Audacity for the transfer, it shows 2 tracks but they are identical. You can hear Ra real well, but the saxes sound like they're in another room which tells me I'm only getting one of the stereo tracks. Does anyone have an idea as to what I need to do to fix the problem? The USB cable I am using is not the one that came with the turntable... could that be the problem?

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