Re: Future of the SATURN list?

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#1 Wed, 2010-09-08 00:06
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Re: Future of the SATURN list?

The answer is: definitely maybe.

I've moved archives from other systems before=97When the type-design = list moved from listbot I had to write a script that scraped the old = archives. That was a bit of a pain but I think it is the worst case = scenario. It's likely that there are existing tools for migrating from = listserv to Mailman that would make it much less painful. I'll look into = the available options.

Steve

On Sep 7, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Stephen Ramirez wrote:

That is a nice gesture Steven! =20 One question for whoever can answer since I am not familiar with the = technologies involved. If the list took Steven up on his request would = he be able to preserve the list archives? At this point the list itself = has minimal traffic but there is a lot of great info to be found in the = archives. =20 thanks! Stephen =20 =20 At 3:55 PM -0700 9/7/10, Steven Scotten wrote:

Hi- =20 I've been hosting mailing lists for subjects I'm interested in for a = little over 10 years. It wouldn't cost me a thing to add another list to = my server, but the software I run is Mailman, which behaves a little = differently than listserv. The functionality is the same but the = instructions would change a little bit. =20 A new list could run on one of my existing domains (paroxysm.com or = p90.net are the domains I've run lists on) or a brand new domain. It = would be no extra trouble, especially if the current list administrator = is willing to continue being list administrator. =20 I'd be glad to help keep Saturn up in the sky. =20 =20 Steve =20 On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Joe Castleman wrote: =20

Greetings, =20 I haven't seen anyone mention it here, so I thought I'd raise the = subject: =20 As those of you who are also on the MILES list already know, = surfnet.nl is shutting down its listserv operations at the end of this year. As = SATURN is hosted on this same listserv, it will be affected as well (unless = Saturnians know something that the Miles-listers don't). Over on the MILES = list we've been discussing our options for the future (e.g. Google groups, = finding another listserv, setting up a domain for the list etc.) Presumably = there is a desire to maintain the SATURN list past the end of the year? Is = there anyone in an academic setting with access to a listserv platform = that we could use? =20 Thanks, =20 Joe Castleman