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#1 Wed, 2012-09-26 06:46
ihorsr
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music of the future

some recent explorations of 'fate in a pleasant mood' and 'holiday for
soul dance' led me to read about the unreleased album 'music of the
future'. from 'the earthly recordings' discography (thanks messrs.
campbell and trent!!!), i gathered:

Further confirmation of the common origin of many of these tracks is
provided by a Saturn test pressing found in a Montréal record store by
François Lamarche. The test pressing was made at Sheldon Recording
Studios (aka the Chess studios in Chicago) and titled simply, Music of
the Future by Sun Ra Arkestra. Side A contained "Space Mates," "But
Not for Me," and "The Others in There [sic] World." Side B had
"Lights on the [sic] Satellite," "Day by Day," "Ankhnaton," and
"Holiday for Strings." The pressing contains Alton Abraham's old
address at 4115 South Drexel -- and gives a Montréal address and phone
number for Sun Ra. It was therefore cut in the summer or early fall
of 1961. However, Saturn did not actually issue any LPs from this
session until 1965, and when they began to appear, the tracks had been
redistributed.

so the questions start...

does anyone have any further info about that test pressing? how many
of them were there? plain old white jacket? full color cover and
labels?

> Alton Abraham's old address at 4115 South Drexel

that would be for saturn research, right?

> gives a Montréal address and phone number for Sun Ra

i do get to montreal every so often. would anyone have that address
and phone number? it would certainly incentivize me to do a road trip
and look that up.

any help with those? thanks, ahead of time, for your replies!

I-) ihor
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Wed, 2012-09-26 23:41
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music of the future

> so the questions start...

i found the answers.

if one has 'fate in a pleasant mood' and 'holiday for soul dance', it
is easy to reconstruct this 'test pressing':

Music of the Future

Side A
1. Space Mates (Ra) (on "Fate in a Pleasant Mood")
2. But Not for Me (Gershwin) (on "Holiday for Soul Dance")
3. The Others in There World (Ra) (on "Fate in a Pleasant Mood")

Side B
4. Lights on the Satellite (Ra) (on "Fate in a Pleasant Mood")
5. Day by Day (Cahn-Stordahl-Weston) (on "Holiday for Soul Dance")
6. Ankhnaton (Ra) (on "Fate in a Pleasant Mood")
7. Holiday for Strings (Rose-Gallo) (on "Holiday for Soul Dance")

Notes:

2, 5, and 7 ("But Not for Me", "Day by Day", and "Holiday for
Strings") are the first three songs on "Holiday for Soul Dance".

1, 3, 4, and 6 ("Space Mates", "The Others in There [sic] World",
"Lights on the [sic] Satellite", and "Ankhnaton") are all from "Fate
in a Pleasant Mood".

this makes for a very nice album - the 'best of' the two albums.

I-) ihor
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Wed, 2012-09-26 23:41 (Reply to #2)
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On 9/26/2012 12:24 PM, ihor sunrise wrote:
>>
>> 2, 5, and 7 ("But Not for Me", "Day by Day", and "Holiday for
>> Strings") are the first three songs on "Holiday for Soul Dance".
>>
>> 1, 3, 4, and 6 ("Space Mates", "The Others in There [sic] World",
>> "Lights on the [sic] Satellite", and "Ankhnaton") are all from "Fate
>> in a Pleasant Mood".
>>
>> this makes for a very nice album - the 'best of' the two albums.

I must respectfully disagree, Ihor. I actually like Fate In A Pleasant
Mood quite a bit...Holiday For Soul Dance, on the other hand, has never
done much for me -- maybe I should go back to it someday...though, out
of the three albums presented on CD with fake stereo processing (or,
rather, the three I have found), Holiday probably bugs me the most.

Nonetheless, reading this has made me realize that I need to break down
and buy "Earthly Recordings" soon, as I never even knew about this test
pressing. Maybe I'll buy it as a Christmas present to myself.

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On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:46 AM, ihor sunrise wrote:




so the questions start...

does anyone have any further info about that test pressing?  how many
of them were there?  plain old white jacket?  full color cover and
labels?

Probably just one.  May not have had a jacket, but if there was one, it was plain.


More recently other early LP test pressings have turned up.  Again, most likely 1 or 2 copies were all that got made.  I bought two test LP sides a couple of years ago that combined tracks from the mega-session of March 6, 1959 with rehearsal material (mostly) later used on The Nubians of Plutonia.  Not inclined to exaggerate about beat-up lacquer on metal, the seller graded them P, but I was able to get most tracks to play through.

These were made in 1960, but also did not see release as programmed.  Two tracks on them have still not been released.



Alton Abraham's old address at 4115 South Drexel


that would be for saturn research, right?


Right.



gives a Montréal address and phone number for Sun Ra


i do get to montreal every so often.  would anyone have that address
and phone number?  it would certainly incentivize me to do a road trip
and look that up.


I don't know what it was.


When John Szwed was doing research for Space Is the Place, he visited Montréal and hit one blind alley after another.  Sonny Greenwich, who had reportedly played with Sun Ra in Montréal, was not available, and it got worse after that.  Gradually various correspondents from the area have filled us in on the location of the club that the Arkestra was originally booked in, the Laurentian Mountain resort they played at, etc.  Better information on the Arkestra's last two years in Chicago have cut the length of the Montréal stay down to just 2 months.  Still many gaps, however.

Keep traveling the Spaceways,

Robert Campbell


any help with those?  thanks, ahead of time, for your replies!

I-)  ihor
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Hi Susan,

I think I found something to help you.  I went to Outerspaceways.info and clicked the FAQ tab at the top right of the page.  The last topic (there are only 5) mentions how to disable the emails:


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