Sun Ra poem for those gone?

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#1 Sun, 2012-07-29 11:19
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Sun Ra poem for those gone?

I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra
poem concerning those who have died or passed on? I'm looking for
something elegiac, positive, not something like "those who have passed
are past" sort of thing. This would be in dedication to a colleague who
recently died.

Ben
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Sun, 2012-07-29 18:46
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Hi Ben,

I found this.  I read it as an invitation to come together and explore our potential, even an invocation to transcend human frailty and achieve perfection.

Best wishes,
-john

we must not say no to ourselves


we must not say no to ourselves
for the greater deed
we must not say can't
if it is imperative that we should
we must not synchronize with anything
less than art-wise dignity
it is either that we are cosmic giants of

achievement, or something less than the
greater super self
across the thunder bridge of time
we rush with lightning feet to join
hands with those
the friends of seers who truly say
and truly do





On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Ben Opie <opek.music@verizon.net> wrote:

I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra poem concerning those who have died or passed on? I'm looking for something elegiac, positive, not something like "those who have passed are past" sort of thing. This would be in dedication to a colleague who recently died.





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Sun, 2012-07-29 18:46 (Reply to #2)
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Excellent, very rewarding and intrepid thoughts.

thank you John!

kindly,

Garrison 
(both lesser and super self)


On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:09 PM, John Sudduth wrote:



Hi Ben,

I found this.  I read it as an invitation to come together and explore our potential, even an invocation to transcend human frailty and achieve perfection.

Best wishes,
-john

we must not say no to ourselves


we must not say no to ourselves
for the greater deed
we must not say can't
if it is imperative that we should
we must not synchronize with anything
less than art-wise dignity
it is either that we are cosmic giants of

achievement, or something less than the
greater super self
across the thunder bridge of time
we rush with lightning feet to join
hands with those
the friends of seers who truly say
and truly do





On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Ben Opie <opek.music@verizon.net> wrote:

I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra poem concerning those who have died or passed on? I'm looking for something elegiac, positive, not something like "those who have passed are past" sort of thing. This would be in dedication to a colleague who recently died.





Ben

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Sun, 2012-07-29 18:46 (Reply to #3)
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I like that poem a lot...but I'm sure it's another one that Ben was thinking of...with the 'those who have passed are in the past...'...I can hear it but I can't place it. Could it have been in 'Joyful Noise?'



Charlie


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Excellent, very rewarding and intrepid thoughts.

thank you John!

kindly,

Garrison 
(both lesser and super self)


On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:09 PM, John Sudduth wrote:



Hi Ben,



I found this.  I read it as an invitation to come together and explore our potential, even an invocation to transcend human frailty and achieve perfection.



Best wishes,

-john



we must not say no to ourselves



we must not say no to ourselves

for the greater deed

we must not say can't

if it is imperative that we should

we must not synchronize with anything

less than art-wise dignity

it is either that we are cosmic giants of

achievement, or something less than the

greater super self

across the thunder bridge of time

we rush with lightning feet to join

hands with those

the friends of seers who truly say

and truly do






On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Ben Opie <opek.music@verizon.net> wrote:

I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra poem concerning those who have died or passed on? I'm looking for something elegiac, positive, not something like "those who have passed are past" sort of thing. This would be in dedication to a colleague who recently died.





Ben

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Mon, 2012-07-30 18:51 (Reply to #4)
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I like
that poem a lot...but I'm sure it's another one that Ben was
thinking of...with the 'those who have passed are in the
past...'...I can hear it but I can't place it. Could it have
been in 'Joyful Noise?'



Charlie


=============================

This is along the lines of Criswell's "Greetings, my friend. We are
all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going
to spend the rest of our lives." ("Plan 9 From Outer Space").



     Julian Vein


Sun, 2012-07-29 18:46
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Hello Be,

Sun Ra's poem "Differences" might be appropriate, if only because of Ra's reference to the "force that made life be / is greater than extinction" and " For there is nothing else to ask for / That companionship is / And it is superior to any other is" 
... as a dedication to your colleague who has passed.

Just a thought, because your request stimulates positive contemplation and merits a response.

kindly,
Garrison

________________

The Differences

Sometimes in the amazing ignorance
I hear things and see things
I never knew I saw and heard before
Sometimes in the ignorance
I feel the meaning
Invincible invisible wisdom,
And I commune with intuitive instinct
With the force that made life be
And since it made life be
It is greater than life
And since it let extinction be
It is greater than extinction.
I commune with feelings more than
prayer
For there is nothing else to ask for
That companionship is
And it is superior to any other is.
Sometimes in my amazing ignorance
Others see me only as they care to see
I am to them as they think
According the standard I should not be
And that is the difference between I and them
Because I see them as they are to is
And not the seeming isness of the was.

Sun Ra
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Ben Opie wrote:



I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra poem concerning those who have died or passed on? I'm looking for something elegiac, positive, not something like "those who have passed are past" sort of thing. This would be in dedication to a colleague who recently died.


Ben
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Sun, 2012-07-29 18:46
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Horace Parlan: "Chuck had a great sound. For him having the right
sound was everything."

Sun Ra:

After-Thought

I take my magic wand in hand and touch
The mind of the world;
I speak in sounds.
What am I saying?
Listen!
"These are the things spoken from
My heart...
These are of and are my intimate treasures,
I give them to those who live and love
Both life and living."

Mon, 2012-07-30 18:51
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Charlie, you are thinking of "Atlantis," but quoting that wouldn't work as a message of condolence, and in fact Ben Opek wrote that this is NOT what he's looking for.  Ben wrote, "I'll put it to you Saturnites: do you know of, or can locate, a Sun Ra poem concerning those who have died or passed on?  I'm looking for something elegiac, positive, not something like 'those who have passed are past' sort of thing.  This would be in dedication to a colleague who recently died."  Ben, how about something from "I'll Wait for You"?  I'm not sure of the exact lyrics, but something like this:

 

In some far-off place

Many light years in space

I'll wait for you

Where human feet have never trod

Where human eyes have never seen

I'll build a world of abstract dreams

And wait for you

 

In tomorrow's realm

We'll take the helm

Of a new ship

Like the lash of a whip

We'll be suddenly on the way

And lightning-journeying

To another friendly shore...

 

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On 30/07/12 01:06, ckohlhase@aol.com wrote:

I like that poem a lot...but I'm sure it's another one that Ben was thinking of...with the 'those who have passed are in the past...'...I can hear it but I can't place it. Could it have been in 'Joyful Noise?'

Charlie